Dec 282009
 

A recent nighttime photograph of the Georgia Guidestones

Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?
– Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Program

It’s a beautiful, warm, November Saturday in Georgia and the defaced granite monument looms above Mart Clamp while he uses a stonemason’s hammer and chisel to patiently chip away at the stubborn polyurethane splattered across the Swahili lettering his father sandblasted into the hard rock thirty years ago. Inexplicably, branchy tufts of hay rain down in slow motion from high up in the blue skies overhead like a vast army of eight-inch pagan fairies who are too tired to keep afloat in the still air. Children nearby playfully roll the hay from heaven into a wispy ball about four feet across.

A large man with broad, square shoulders and a crushing handshake, Mart Clamp was born to work stone. Quick to smile with a youthful face, Clamp is a friendly man whom children instinctively like. “I don’t understand why people would do something like this,” Clamp remarks as he cleaves off a piece of polyurethane taking along with it a thin sliver of underlying granite. “Up until the last year or two, the worst thing they’d do is smear chicken blood everywhere.”

It’s all more than a little surreal.

Mart Clamp chips away at recent vandalism at the Georgia Guidestones.

Crowded next to the South Carolina border in northeast Georgia, Elberton, aptly the county seat of Elbert County, is the self proclaimed “Granite Capital of the World.” Home to at least 42 active quarries, chances are good that regardless of where you live in the United States there’s a chunk of Elbert County nearby. For the last century, buildings, monuments, countertops and, of course, gravestones have been built and laid all over the world using Elberton granite.

A granite map of Georgia with Elberton marked in red

Elbert County is so rich in the durable igneous stone that practically everything there is built of granite. Homes, road signs, banks, the community center, the county jail and even the grossly oversized, 20,000 seat Blue Devils high school football stadium are all constructed out of the 400-million year old, sparkling rock, a combination of gray feldspar, quartz and mica. Unsurprisingly, little Elberton, with a population under 5,000, probably has the highest concentration of monuments in the world.

Elbert County is also the home to thousands of stoneworkers: explosive experts, stone cutters, sand blasters and heavy equipment operators specializing in handling huge blocks of granite. Almost exclusively male, these stoneworking men combine to form the backbone of the Elbert County economy. For the most part, these men are the hardworking, salt of the earth types that have come to symbolize classic Americana. But it shouldn’t be much of a surprise that Elbert County is also home to a thriving community of Freemasons. After all, at least one major branch of modern Masonry got its start among the stonemasons of England, Scotland and Ireland in the late 16th Century.

“I know nearly all of the men who worked on this monument and nearly all of them were good Christians and good Masons,” Clamp maintained. “I know that none of them would have worked on the Guidestones if they believed that there was anything evil or untoward about them.”

But that is not quite accurate. Nearly thirty years previously to the day, Mart Clamp’s father, Charlie Clamp, was sandblasting over 4,000 4-inch letters into the eight faces of the four Guidestones. Forebodingly, as he carved the words “to an age of reason” into the Pyramid Blue granite capstone, Charlie Clamp says he heard “strange music and disjointed voices.”

The Elberton Granite Museum attendant, a warm, amiable man in his sixties, also revealed that the Guidestones have been a persistent source of controversy with the local churches. “The churches in this area have never been too happy about it,” he said in a perfect, melodious Georgia accent. In a Los Angeles Times article, the man who constructed the monument, Joe Fendley, remarked that he “got a lot of poison calls and poison letters” over the Guidestones. “I’ve heard preachers say it’s evil,” confided Hudson Cone of the Elberton Granite Association in that same article.

In his interview with us for this article, retired banker Wyatt C. Martin, the one man who knows the true, secret identity of the initiator of the Georgia Guidestones, lamented about all of the attention he has gotten over the years from witches, pagans and “nutcases.” Mr. Martin, a devout Christian man who is now nearly 80-years old, nevertheless remains proud of his contributions to the Guidestones.

Gary Jones, publisher of the Elberton Star newspaper, probably best summarized local feelings when he told us, “None of the churches around here ever liked the monument much, but the Guidestones literally put Elberton on the map, so people in Elberton are pretty protective of them.”

After a recent spate of increasingly severe vandalism, Elbert County was protective enough to put up two wireless surveillance cameras, even though the cameras remained unpowered during our recent visit to the monument.

Two recently installed surveillance cameras remain unpowered and pose a hollow threat to vandals.

Our investigation in Elbert County led to the discovery of an apparent, ongoing attempt to topple the English language Guidestone. We passed on photographic evidence to Jones showing that a
large notch was recently cut from the top of that Guidestone near the support pin attaching that stone to the capstone.

Two views of a large notch that was recently cut into the English language Guidestone.

Anger directed against the monument has only grown more intense over the years. Many believe the Georgia Guidestones advocate – if not outright promise – genocide at an almost unimaginable scale, promote eugenics and hint towards a New World Order global government where personal rights are only granted through service to a tyrannical world state. Some even claim the Guidestones are the product of a Satanic cult.

Interestingly, we have found evidence that a date is encoded in the Guidestones – a date that is only a few days away – and an event planned for this date may very well lend credence to the very darkest of sinister theories.

What is the truth about this modern, mini-Stonehenge? Do the Guidestones contain secret messages? Who is behind this enigmatic granite edifice? What’s going to happen on January 4th, 2010, a date that appears to be deliberately hidden in the design of the monument? Can we decode the Georgia Guidestones?

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The Mystery of Robert C. Christian
If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

The official Georgia Guidestones creation story is centered on a mysterious character who used the pseudonym “Robert C. Christian.” As the story goes, a middle aged man walked into Elberton Granite Finishing Company on a Friday afternoon in June, 1979. It just so happened that no one else in the office was available to talk to him, so the company’s president, the energetic, ambitious and reportedly quirky Freemason Joe Fendley, greeted the man who introduced himself as Robert C. Christian.

Busy with payroll, Fendley initially didn’t take Christian seriously when the odd stranger began describing an elaborate granite monument that he wanted Fendley’s company to build. However, as the refined, silver-haired and well dressed Christian elaborated on project details involving solid granite slabs larger than anything anyone in the area had ever produced, Fendley took notice.

Joe Fendley whipped out a calculator – and a metric conversion table since R.C. Christian made all of his specifications in meters, an unusual metrology for Georgia during the 70s – and quickly provided a rough cost estimate. Fendley deliberately made sure to err well on the high side, but Christian didn’t flinch at the price. Fendley then carefully explained that no monument that big had ever been quarried in Elbert County and that consultants would have to be hired to provide the necessary astronomical and language translation expertise, so the price he quoted was only a rough estimate and could not be guaranteed.

Undeterred, Christian went on to explain that he represented “a small group of loyal Americans who believe in God” and want to “leave a message for future generations.” He then asked Fendley to suggest a local bank to serve as a financial intermediary.

As soon as Christian walked out of his office, Fendley telephoned his friend and Granite City Bank president Wyatt C. Martin and warned him of a “kook who wants to build some kind of crazy monument.” About half-an-hour later, Christian appeared at Martin’s office and quickly dispelled most of banker’s skepticism with his expensive suit of clothes and intelligent, articulate demeanor. After introductory pleasantries, Christian recounted his mission to Martin and explained that “Robert C. Christian” was a pseudonym that he chose because he was a Christian.

As a banker, Martin insisted on knowing Christian’s real name so that he could investigate his finances before the project could begin. Christian complied, but conditioned that he and the group he represented wanted to remain anonymous forever. Martin agreed to never disclose Robert C. Christian’s true identity.

According to the Guidestones’ official story, Joe Fendley, who died recently, and Wyatt Martin were the only people to have met Christian. By that same story, Martin is the only person who ever knew Christian’s true identity. When we spoke with Mr. Martin several days ago, he remained committed to his vow of secrecy taken more than thirty years ago. However, we have made discoveries that shed light on who might really be behind the Georgia Guidestones and we will discuss our findings later in this article.

Christian asked Martin to find him five acres of land for the monument. He initially wanted the land to be in Hancock County on a line stretching west from Augusta. However, Martin argued against that location and said Elbert County would be cheaper and easier to accommodate. Christian agreed and, at a later date, settled on a five-acre plot on the Mullenix farm, a spot Martin favored. Purchased for $5,000 on October 1, 1979, the location is a little over seven miles north of Elberton on a ridge that is supposed to be the highest point in Elbert County. Christian had the land deeded to the county with grazing rights given to the Mullenix family for at least twenty years. The land is to remain otherwise undeveloped in “natural conditions.”

Over the years, a number of inconsistencies with the official story have arisen. For instance, Christian originally maintained that he was only one of a group of individuals who had planned the Georgia Guidestones for more than 20 years, but in his book written more than five years later, Common Sense Renewed, he is listed as “the author and sponsor of the Georgia Guidestones Monument.” Later in the book he writes that he is “the originator of the Georgia Guidestones and the sole author of its inscriptions.”

“Over the years, I’ve begun to suspect the same thing, that the whole thing came from only one man or at most one man and his family,” Martin told us recently.

In the Elberton Granite Museum’s extensive guidebook on the Georgia Guidestones, Christian is said to have vanished for so long after his initial visit that Fendley and Martin came to believe Christian’s appearance was simply a prank pulled off by Fendley’s Shrine Club buddies. However, in a later interview with Wired Magazine, Wyatt Martin claims that Christian returned on the Monday following the Friday of initial contact.

Also, the museum guidebook reported that “upon completion of the project Martin said that all material concerning the project was shredded,” but in his recent Wired interview, Martin admitted that, in fact, he still has all of the Georgia Guidestone records along with all of the letters from Christian. Every last document related to the monument are packed inside a 1983, hard-sided, plastic, IBM computer case sitting in the back of Wyatt Martin’s garage.

Fendley meticulously documented the quarrying and building of the Georgia Guidestones monument, a tactic that backfired on him because his deliberate preplanning for a media blitz gave fuel to the critics who saw the Guidestones as nothing but a big publicity stunt Fendley and Wyatt concocted. People liked to say that “Ole Joe” was the most famous Elbertonian since “Old Dan Tucker,” the 18th century preacher who was memorialized in the still popular folk song of the same name. To his grave, Fendley denied these allegations, but he nevertheless enjoyed the attention the monument brought and used the publicity as momentum to gain the mayoral office of Elberton in 1980.

Nevertheless, Fendley’s photo record of the Georgia Guidestones construction project is included in the museum guidebook and is valuable for the many details it documents.

About nine months after the secretive first meetings with Christian, the monument was formally unveiled on March 22, 1980, in front of a crowd of around 400. The guidebook lists more than eighty people involved in the project. U.N. language experts and college professors were used for the challenging language translations and transliterations. Scientists and engineers were contracted to oversee the project’s astronomical details.

The crowd for the unvieling was impressive, but one important character was missing. “I don’t think R.C. Christian has ever even visited the monument to this day,” Mr. Martin confided to us.

Although there are reasons to believe that the R.C. Christian story is almost a complete fabrication, the few “facts” about him from the story are:

  • R.C. Christian visited Stonehenge before designing the Georgia Guidestones.
  • He was over sixty years old when he wrote Common Sense Renewed in 1986.
  • He claimed to be a Christian, but his writings suggests that he might instead be a follower of Alice A. Bailey’s New Age movement who venerate “The Christ” but also worship other deities.
  • He had a great-grandmother from Georgia.
  • He served in World War II.
  • He was very well traveled and sent checks to Martin to pay for the monument from banks located all over the country.
  • He was at least moderately wealthy.
  • He liked Thomas Paine.
  • He distributed his book to “several thousand political officials and shapers of public opinion throughout the world. All members of the United States Congress received copies.”
  • He quoted Henry James’ remarks about Stonehenge.
  • He was described as a “gray-haired middle-aged gentleman” when he met with Fendley and Martin in 1979.
We’ll discuss Robert C. Christian’s ideas expounded in Common Sense Renewed later in this article.
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The Monument
Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it.
— Albert Pike, Morals and dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
Composed of four “Guidestones,” a capstone and a central “Gnomen Stone,” the Georgia Guidestones is a granite monument located on top of a modest hill next to Georgia State Highway 77, a little over seven miles north of the town of Elberton. Although the location is purportedly the highest point within Elbert County, this is a rather dubious designation since the pancake flat surrounding acres appear to be at least as high in elevation.

The stones of the monument are secured together with eight inch, stainless steel dowel pins that are 1-5/8 inches thick. Bedrock was excavated to a depth of two feet for the monument’s foundation. The support stones rest on a frame of iron reinforced concrete. The combined weight of the monument including its buried support stones is about 119 tons.

Although hyped as “overwhelming in size,” the Georgia Guidestones structure is really not particularly large. The Georgia Guidestones would only be an average sized monument in Washington D.C. and would be dwarfed by many of the larger monuments there. Loosely and deliberately modeled after Stonehenge, the Georgia Guidestones is much smaller. Stonehenge is both taller (over 24 feet tall versus 18 feet) and covers far more area (the extant stone structures of Stonehenge stretch over an area nearly 40 yards across, while the Georgia Guidestones can be enclosed within a 20’x24’ rectangle).

Mart Clamp, who owns Clamp Memorials in Elberton, estimated that it would cost about $500,000 to build the Georgia Guidestones today. Gary Jones said that he’s been told the monument cost around $225,000 when it was constructed in 1980. However, Wyatt Martin, the banker who handled all of the funds for the Guidestones, says that figure is much too high but did not provide a cost estimate. To be sure, it’s still a sizable sum, but well within reach of many groups. In fact, many individuals could have easily afforded to pay for the Georgia Guidestones, somewhat diminishing the case that the monument could have only been erected by a cabal of deep pocketed global elite.

The monument provides four astronomical functions:

1. Polaris, the North Star, is visible through a hole drilled in the Gnomen stone. Unfortunately, this sighting hole is misaligned and poorly executed. It takes effort to glimpse Polaris since it is barely visible in the extreme right limit of th
e misshaped hole.
The Polaris sighting hole
2. The four Guidestones are aligned in a paddlewheel formation pointing to the limits of the 18.6 year lunar declination cycle. Also called the “lunar standstill,” this regular phenomenon appears to have been important to the Bronze Age, megalithic constructing societies of Britain and Ireland. Archaeological evidence indicates that some Ancient American Indian cultures also tracked the lunar standstill. Today, Neopagans place value on the lunar declination cycle.
3. Weather allowing, every day at noon the sun will shine through a 7/8 inch hole drilled through the capstone onto the south face of the Gnomen stone. Reportedly, the day of the year can be ascertained by the location of the light spot, but we could not discern any markings on the Gnomen stone to aid in this function. However, the upper third of the Gnomen stone’s south side is machined much smoother than the remainder of the rock-pitched construction.
The noontime sun aperture
4. The Gnomen stone, presumably named because it marks time somewhat like the gnomen finger of a sundial, is also slotted to allow viewing of sunrise and sunset throughout the year. The limits mark the summer and winter solstices. The fall and spring equinoxes are marked with a groove at the center of the slot.
The solstice / equinox slot
To the west of the monument, a large granite marker stone located flat on the ground explains these astronomical features. It also provides a few basic monument measurements and a diagram identifying the languages used on the capstone. The main function of the marker stone is to identify the location of a time capsule buried six feet beneath it. However, the dates for the burial and opening of the capsule remain blank and many Elberton residents believe nothing was ever buried there.
The large, granite marker stone to the west of the monument
Our metal detector could not locate anything beneath the marker stone, but we did observe four small hits, each about a foot away from the marker stone in the four cardinal directions. However, the Guidestones have been used frequently for pagan sacrifices and the marker stone has sustained damage recently due to crude attempts to dig up the time capsule underneath it, so the hits we obtained might have been caused by caches or offerings left by worshipers — which seems to occur often — or simply trash left by vandals.
Flora Smith, 12, and Evie Smith, 10, created a 3d model of the Georgia Guidestones in Google Sketchup. YouTube transcoding produced minor corruption at the start of the video.
Wyatt Martin confirmed that the time capsule was never buried and that the monument is, in fact, incomplete. “R.C. Christian had hoped that the centerpiece he erected would inspire people to build twelve more Guidestones based on the lunar calendar and inscribed with more languages,” Mr. Martin explained, “There was a Guidestones Foundation set up to collect money for this, but it has since been shut down after the couple died who were running it.”

The scope and severity of vandalism has increased dramatically over the last two years. The monument is covered in graffiti, much of it obscene. Some messages denounce the New World Order, some messages are written in code, some mock and insult politicians and a few messages promise the fiery sword of God’s justice for those behind the Guidestones.

However, Elberton county volunteers like Mart Clamp have become good at removing the spray paint and marker ink regularly left by disquieted visitors. Blood, although common, is trivial to clean and will eventually vanish on its own. The polyurethane splattered across the English and Swahilli Guidestone faces is much more problematic, requiring Clamp to chisel it away.

A movie appeared on the Internet last year claiming responsibility for a wave of vandalism that occurred at that time.

Another video, full of profanity, soon followed claiming to identify the masked vandal as radio talk show personality Jim Host.
More problematic than the paint or polyurethane is the damage done to the marker stone during obvious attempts to dig up the time capsule underneath it. The marker stone has been chipped away on its west side and a small part of the northwest corner has been broken off.

As mentioned earlier, the most severe damage of all is a large notch recently cut into the English language Guidestone near the stainless steel pin securing that Guidestone to the capstone. It appears that the damage was made over the course of about a year in an ongoing effort to topple that Guidestone.

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Humanity’s Tombstone
A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.
– Ted Turner, founder of CNN in Atlanta, Georgia, Kappa Sigma alumnus and donor of $1-billion to the United Nations

Of course, none of these details would ordinarily raise an eyebrow, much less cause the raging storm of controversy that may ultimately lead to the complete destruction of the Georgia Guidestones. No, what enrages many people are the ten messages inscribed on the eight faces of the monument, written in eight different languages: English, Classical Hebrew, Swahili, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese, Arabic, Russian and Hindi.

Author and political activist Mark Dice, a highly vocal critic of the monument who is calling for the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones, maintains that the messages are the “Ten Commandments of the Illuminatti.” Some people call the granite monument “humanity’s tombstone.”

Indeed, almost everyone we talked to agreed that the ten Georgia Guidestones dictums are intended for a decimated earth. “Absolutely, the Georgia Guidestones are rules for a post-Apocalyptic world,” affirmed Naunie Batchelder, a psychic who favors the monument so much that she was married in the shadow of the Guidestones.

No, controversy arises from whether or not the Apocalypse is planned or endorsed by the sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones.

Robert Christian correctly anticipated that his ten rules etched with 4” high letters into giant granite slabs and expressed in eight different languages would be interpreted as commandments to the world. He denies this. “They are not commandments. We have no authority to command.” The latter might be true, but one gets the distinct impression that Christian is not sincere about the former.

His Guidestone pronouncements hint at the creation of a new world government, commonly referred to as the “New World Order” by his critics. Other commandments seem to support eugenics policies. It even appears that he suggest that rights will only be conferred if service to the state is rendered. Among Masonic themes, Christian wants to install a global language, perhaps like the one that purportedly existed under King Nimrod during the construction of the Tower of Babel.

The first Guidestone commandment sets a global population target of only 500-million. Considering that about 6.6-billion people are alive today, this represents a 93 percent population reduction. Worse, in his book Common Sense Renewed, Robert Christian reveals that his initial 500-million global population target might be too high for him only six years after the monument was erected.

Robert Christian elaborates upon his Georgia Guidestones messages in his book Common Sense Renewed

In that book, which expounds upon his strange and nebulous Guidestone messages, R.C. Christian removes all doubt about his support for a global government. Christian calls for a “rational world order” and a “global rule by reason,” the latter phrase bringing to mind the French Revolution and its very unreasonable Reign of Terror. And terror you should feel.

While Christian is very careful to season his book with lots of flowery rhetoric, he does so to conceal and make palatable his extreme views for a new “rational world order,” a phrase he uses several times in his book. “We believe each human being has a purpose,” “Humans are special creatures,” “each child takes its place in the human story,” “every child must be wanted, needed and loved,” are phrases that soften the fact Robert Christian advocates mass sterilization programs, considers human reproduction to no longer be “exclusively a personal matter,” demands the state “have a voice” and “power of direction” in regulating a couple’s decision to have children.

After all, Christian believes “bringing unneeded children” into the world is “evil.” Of course, the state gets to decide if your children are “needed.”

And regarding the eugenics question, Christian is very much in favor of state run human breeding programs.

Through a state run eugenics program, Christian believes the world can produce “healthier and more productive human beings” over each succeeding generation. “Superior human intelligence, compassion and drive” and other “desirable mental and physical qualities” can also be enhanced under such eugenic conditions.

Humorously yet sinisterly, Christian cites “docility” and “loyalty” achieved through selective breeding in dogs as evidence that “comparable but more important modifications” in human behavior can be achieved through eugenics.

In R.C. Christian’s “Age of Reason,” even if the state allows you to have children, you will be required to raise them under strict conditions so as to “mold their characters and to develop their potentials as socially worthwhile adults.”

That is, if the state even allows you to keep them.

Because even if you and your spouse are considered good breeding stock, the state might find you “temperamentally unsuited for parenthood.” In which case, your children will be transferred “to the care of others capable of nurturing them into well adjusted adulthood.”

No, Christian does not see people when he looks at us; he sees cattle:

Humanity has successfully applied practical genetic principles in developing domesticated plants and animals. It is now within our power to begin the domestication of our own species in a parallel fashion.

And don’t think that you are safe just because you lined up for voluntary sterilization.

For instance, if the economy is bad and you lose your job, in Robert Christian’s rational world order, you will have to become a slave of the state to survive. You won’t be able to vote and you will be compelled to work jobs often held by illegal immigrants, who will then be displaced back to their native lands. If you don’t like your job and quit, you will starve.

Not only will you have to be suitably employed or own a private business to vote, you will also have to pass both intelligence and “educational requirements” tests to prove to the state that you are worthy
of the right of suffrage. Want to run for public office? Robert Christian has more tests that you will need to pass first.

Speaking of rights, you will have none if Christian gets his way. Rights to him are privileges that the state will only bestow upon you if you properly serve the state.

And don’t forget your identity card! In Christian’s nightmare world, everyone is required to carry with them a unique biometric ID card. Without one you will not be able to get work or get government help.

Okay, so you are a good citizen in Christian’s new age world. You might be allowed to have children. You might be allowed to raise them. You might be lucky enough to find a suitable job so that you can vote.

Just be sure not to get sick or injured, because Christian believes the state must ration health care “favoring those individuals whose continuing lives are most valuable” to the state.

But you were injured because your new Halliburton electric toothbrush exploded in your right hand, blowing it off at the wrist and blinding you for life. Surely, you have recourse to litigation. No, Christian wants to place caps on litigation and let financial damage beyond this limit fall to his state’s wonderfully efficient and fair health and welfare system.

Unfortunately, that means that since you can no longer work, you will lose your voting privileges, almost certainly lose your child because you will not be able to care for him properly on welfare and you will receive the lowest standard of medical care available because you are no longer productive for the state.

It’s all very rational and reasonable in Christian’s mind.

And now that we know the real meaning of R.C. Christian’s otherwise nebulous granite platitudes, here is a description of all of his writing on that cold, stone edifice.

The capstone bears the message “Let These Be Guidestones To An Age Of Reason” written in the ancient languages that play a central role in Masonic theology: Babylonian Cuneiform, Egyptian Hieroglyphics, Classical Greek and Sanskrit.

R.C. Christian’s Ten Commandments for a post-Apocalyptic world are:

1.Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2.Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
3.Unite humanity with a living new language.
4.Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
5.Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6.Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7.Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8.Balance personal rights with social duties.
9.Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.
Faced with the grim realities Robert Christian expressed in detail through Common Sense Renewed, supporters of the monument don’t want to believe it. “The builders of the Georgia Guidestones didn’t write the book,” psychic Naunie Batchelder insisted, “they are enlightened and the monument is a place of peace and light.” She continued, “That book is a lie, a deception.”

But in fact, a more apt description of the Georgia Guidestones really is “humanity’s tombstone.” The fact is Robert Christian wants most of us dead and those few left won’t be treated like humans.

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Who is R.C. Christian?
Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
— David Rockefeller

Wyatt C. Martin is a warm, friendly, gregarious Christian man. A genealogy buff, Mr. Martin asks me about my ancestry. I tell him that one of my father’s relatives traced my family tree back to the 1100’s showing that I am a direct descendant of Geoffrey Plantagenet, father of the House of Plantagenet. Martin finds this interesting and talks with me at length about his family’s rich history.

Wyatt Martin is important to this article because he is the only person who knows the true identity of Robert C. Christian.

There are three primary suspects.

Joe H. Fendley, Sr.: “I can tell you that there are a lot of people in the granite industry who believe to this day that Joe Fendley is having a big chuckle at all of us from way up there in that Big Granite Monument in the Sky,” laughed Elberton Star Publisher Gary Jones, “most all of them think Ole Joe pulled off the Guidestones as a publicity stunt.”

That sentiment is not unique. Dr. Gloria Bader Merchant, wife of the second suspect on our list, thinks Joe Fendley might have concocted R.C. Christian. “Joe Fendley was very enthusiastic about the Guidestones; it was his project and very personal for him; he ran everything. It seems perfectly in line with his character to create the monument and the R.C. Christian story,” Dr. Merchant posited. “Joe Fendley was also a very active Mason, and I’ve always thought the Guidestones were inspired by Masonic principles,” Dr. Merchant, an Alice A. Bailey disciple who worked in Bailey’s Arcane School, expounded.

Indeed, Fendley was a very active Freemason and Shriner. The Shriners Club is reserved for high ranking Freemasons and Joe Fendley had reached the 32nd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry ten years before he erected the Guidestones monument. Virtually every man who worked directly on the monument also was a Freemason.

Fendley was probably inspired and motivated by the The Argo Spire, a monument constructed by a rival granite company five years before the Georgia Guidestones were built. The Argo Spire is an impressive, solid granite obelisk — and another symbol of Freemasonry. At 51 feet high, it weighs nearly 21 tons. It was erected in 1975 and relocated to the Elberton Granite Museum in 1985.

The Argo Spire
By all accounts, Joe Fendley, a likable and somewhat eccentric man, relished the media attention the Guidestones brought him and he utilized that notoriety to springboard to mayor soon after the monument was completed.

But there are several convincing reasons to cross Joe Fendley’s name off our list.

“Joe was a great salesman and it’s easy to imagine that he was behind the Georgia Guidestones, but I believe that the truth is somewhere in the middle between Joe Fendley and a group of global elite,” concluded Gary Jones, who, like most people in Elberton, keeps a close eye on the Georgia Guidestones. “I don’t think Joe had the skills necessary to design all the astronomical aspects of the monument and I don’t think he could have written that book,” continued Jones and referring to Robert Christian’s Common Sense Renewed.

Psychic Naunie Batchelder was even blunter. “I knew Joe Fendley and there’s no way he could have been behind the Guidestones,” Batchelder emphasized, “Joe was a talker and he had a big mouth. There’s no way he could have kept a secret that long.”

Most condemning is Wyatt Martin’s testimony. “I made a vow never to reveal R.C. Christian’s true identity,” Martin reaffirmed, “however, I can tell you that Joe Fendley was not R.C. Christian.”

Dr. Francis Merchant: An author, college professor and Alice A. Bailey disciple with United Nations connections, Dr. Francis Merchant is an ideal suspect for being R.C. Christian. Not only was he an Elberton resident, but his writing style, as demonstrated in his interpretation of the Guidestones’ 10 dictims published in the Elberton Granite Museum’s brochure on the Georgia Guidestones, is very similar to R.C. Christian’s.
Merchant devoted much of his life to the study of Alice A. Bailey’s writings. Bailey is considered by many to be the founder of the New Age movement. She and her second husband, Foster Bailey, formed the Lucifer Publishing Company in 1920. It took them a few years to realize that it wasn’t a great idea to name their company after the devil – especially in early 20th Century United States – so they changed their organization’s moniker to “Lucis Publishing Company” in 1925. Their organization is now commonly known as the Lucis Trust.

Alice and Foster first met during meetings of the Theosophical Society. Eventually, Alice Bailey was kicked out of the Theosophical Society because the organization’s leadership did not believe she was really channeling the spirit of “The Tibetan,” an entity she eventually named “Djwhal Khul.” Alice was expelled despite the fact that Helena Blavatski, the founder of the Theosophical Society, had made very similar spirit channeling claims.

Alice Bailey appears to have been greatly influenced by her husband Foster Bailey, a 32nd Degree Freemason and equally enthusiastic Theosophy buff. “Alice didn’t have a head for business,” Dr. Gloria Bader Merchant, widow of Francis Merchant, told us, “she often said she would not have gotten anywhere without Foster’s work on all the business aspects of their endeavors.”


Blavatskian Theosophy and Freemasonry as established by Albert Pike share a great deal in common, from their veneration of Lucifer to their fascination with the Aryan race. Consider the following two quotes:
Stand in awe of him, and sin not, speak his name with trembling … It is Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god…
— Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society
LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!
— Albert Pike, Morals and dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
It’s pretty creepy stuff and, together with their Aryan writings, served as foundation for the Nazi movement, filtered through Guido von List and the Thule secret society of Bavaria. Here is a sample from Pike’s Lectures of the Arya:
They were white men, as we are, the superior race in intellect, in manliness, the governing race of the world, the conquering race of all other races. They called themselves Arya, the Aryans, the Warlike, or, some think, the Noble… we owe not one single truth, not one idea, in philosophy or religion to the Semitic race… it is a fact indisputable.
— Albert Pike, Lectures of the Arya
While her teachings are generally softer and gentler than her masters’, Alice Bailey herself made many statements broadly critical of Jews while she extended the Aryan mythos. “The Jews are the reincarnation of spiritual failures or residues from another planet,” she claimed while praising the Aryans as the “emerging new race” of “mentally adepts.”

As bizarre and universally offensive as many of Bailey’s beliefs are, the Lucis Trust continues to be a very influential organization with tentacles reaching deep inside the United Nations.

So it would seem that living in the little, out-of-the-way Southern town of Elberton, Dr. Francis Merchant must be involved in the Genesis of the Georgia Guidestones.

In fact, Dr. Merchant had nothing to do with the building of the Guidestones. “We moved to Elberton to retire in September of 1980, well after the monument was built,” Dr. Gloria Bader Merchant, a gracious lady now in her 80’s, explains, “I can state unequivocally that my husband had nothing to do with the building of the Georgia Guidestones.”

Tragically, on January 5, 1981, a strong, healthy Dr. Francis Merchant died suddenly and unexpectedly at home, as if struck down by lightning bolt from Zeus, shortly after delivering his essay on the Georgia Guidestones to Joe Fendley.

Robert Edward “Ted” Turner III: American media mogul and multi-billionaire Ted Turner is an off-the-wall character who sometimes appears to be insane. Here’s a video of Turner claiming that most of us will be dead and the rest will be cannibals in 30 or 40 years unless we act now on global warming.
The largest land owner in North America, Ted Turner started his road to riches when he inherited his father’s billboard business. Turner’s media empire is largely centered in Atlanta, Georgia, less that 100-miles away from the Guidestones.
A billboard very close to the Georgia Guidestones
Other than his famous shock of white hair and his first name, Ted Turner doesn’t really fit the description of Robert C. Christian. He is famously not a Christian, but Robert Christian’s Common Sense Renewed is anything but a Christian tome. However, it is highly likely that the Guidestones would have been torn down years ago if not for the fact that Robert C. Christian advertised that he was a Christian, which was probably a simple ruse to deflect and confuse local critics.

Given Turner’s notoriety even back in 1980, if he did play the role of Robert Christian, it wouldn’t be a smart idea to list details of his life if he wished to remain anonymous. In other words, the official description of Robert C. Christian might be little more than a smoke screen, a cover story concocted to thwart those seeking to connect the Georgia Guidestones to Turner.

It is well established that Ted Turner has sentiments that parallel those expressed by Robert Christian. For instance, in a 1996 interview with Audubon Magazine, Turner said that reducing the world population to 250-300 million people “would be ideal.” This continued the downward trajectory that we already witnessed from Robert Christian.

Turner is a fanatical supporter of the United Nations and has donated $1-billion to that organization. He is equally fanatical about environmental issues and was co-creator of the Captain Planet cartoons, a show targeted for children with New Age environmental themes. Turner also founded the Nuclear Threat Initiative and Christian spent a great deal of time on nuclear warfare issues in his book.

Turner even published his own alternative Ten Commandments and they sound a lot like the ten Georgia Guidestone dictums:

1. I promise to have love and respect for the planet earth and living things thereon, especially my fellow species–humankind.
2. I promise to treat all persons everywhere with dignity, respect, and friendliness.
3. I promise to have no more than two children, or no more than my nation suggests.
4. I promise to use my best efforts to save what is left of our natural world in its untouched state and to restore damaged or destroyed areas where practical.
5. I pledge to use as little nonrenewable resources as possible.
6. I pledge to use as little toxic chemicals, pesticides, and other poisons as possible and to work for their reduction by others.
7. I promise to contribute to those less fortunate than myself, to help them become self-sufficient and enjoy the benefits of a decent life, including clean air and water, adequate food and health care, housing, education, and individual rights.
8. I reject the use of force, in particular military force, and back United Nations arbitration of international disputes.
9. I support the total elimination of all nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons of mass destruction.
10. I support the United Nations and its efforts to collectively improve the conditions of the planet.

And don’t overlook Ted Turner’s prodigious vanity. It is completely consistent with his ego to give his pseudonym the same first name he possesses.

Turner had already made our Top 3 list, but we have since obtained evidence that implicates Ted Turner directly with the creators of the Georgia Guidestones. While circumstantial, the evidence is so persuasive that we believe that Robert Edward “Ted” Turner III played the role of Robert C. Christian in the Georgia Guidestones creation story.

The evidence we obtained came from a source who has maintained a long relationship with Ted Turner. We cannot divulge the details of that evidence without exposing that person’s identity to Turner.

For the record, when we asked him about it, Wyatt Martin denied that Ted Turner was Robert Christian.


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What’s Done In The Dark Will Be Brought To The Light
It is written hieroglyphically with numbers and images; and the Apostle often appeals to the intelligence of the Initiated. “Let him who hath knowledge, understand! let him who understands, calculate!” he often says, after an allegory or the mention of a number.
— Albert Pike, Morals and dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
The body of occult work in active use today is like an endless, sticky, black ocean of tar. I have had the misfortune of swimming in that sea of engulfing darkness while researching this article. For an analytical, reasoning mind, the occult is offensive. For the moral, the occult topics relevant for this article are shocking and repulsive. I am sick of this subject. In this section, which I would like to avoid altogether, I will only cover the most important and topical information and leave further research up to the intrepid reader. I only include this section because it does appear to be a very important part of the Georgia Guidestones story.

Former University of Texas assistant professor Texe Marrs is a prolific author on occult topics, particularly those involving Freemasonry, Theosophy and the New Age. Marrs briefly discussed the Georgia Guidestones in his recent book Mysterious Monuments. “I visited it [the Georgia Guidestone monument] some years ago and talked to the City Manager of Eberton about it. He confirmed that the Masonic Lodge folks were the instigators, though he didn’t call them that,” Marrs told us recently. “He was quite nervous about the whole situation,” Marrs continued. Our investigation in Elberton provoked similar responses. People were initially very eager to discuss the Guidestones for this article, but became uncomfortable and quiet when the inevitable Masonic issues arose.

The genesis of New Age theology starts with Albert Pike’s Morals and dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in 1871, a book where he expounds on a broad range of occult topics. He then radically expands his ideas in Lectures of the Arya in 1873 where he attempts to divorce the European white race from semitic influences by creating an Aryan super-race mythos. In 1888, Helena Blavatky publishes her two volume tome The Secret Doctrine which takes and expand Pike’s teachings outside of Freemasonry to found the bedrock of Theosophy. Guido von List “Germanized” Blavatsky’s teaching and, through the Bavarian Thule Masonic secret society, gave birth to the Nazi party.

After the Blavatsky-founded Theosophical Society kicked out Alice Bailey, she formed a new branch of Theosophy now commonly called the New Age movement. Her Arcane School and the Lucis Trust have become very influential organizations and appear to be favored as the blueprint for a United Nations endorsed world religion.

A central theme in this Theosophical lineage – in fact, predating Albert Pike – is the idea that man can attain divinity. As such, God becomes the jealous adversary working to thwart man’s elevation to godhood. Satan, or, more commonly in modern occult circles, Lucifer is seen as man’s ally, the Bringer of Light, the Bestower of Knowledge.

Two passages in Genesis are particularly important pillars of belief for these “Luciferian” sects. Genesis 3:22-24 states:

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
This is seen as by Luciferians as an admission by God that man can become like Him. It also demonstrates for them that God is unfair, cruel and jealous.

Perhaps an even more important passage is Genesis 11:6. Here, God remarks as King Nimrod’s builders erect the Tower of Babel:

And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
This passage suggests that godhood is still attainable for man if mankind is unified under one order with one language. For Luciferians, this is the key to achieving their goal of reaching divinity.

Genesis 3:22 appears to be represented in the Georgia Guidestones with the March 22 (3/22) unveiling date. Lucifer or Satan is represented by the number “666” which appears to be encoded in the overall height of the monument of 18 feet (in numerology, it is common practice to combine numbers in the fashion 6+6+6 = 18). The number 18 also appears in the year the monument was unveiled, 1980. In this case 1 + 9 + 8 + 0 = 18 which, again, is the most basic numerological encoding for “666.”

The true dimensions of the monument are obscured by two factors. Firstly, even though Robert Christian specified the monument’s measurements in meters, they are reported in all official Guidestone related material in feet. Secondly, the buried support stones are included in the monument’s height.

Robert Christian specified each Guidestone to be 0.5m x 2m x 5m. The capstone is an additional 0.5m bringing the overall height of the monument to 5.5m = 18.0 feet. The true dimensions of the various monument components are as follows:

Each Guidestone: 0.5m x 2m x 5m (42,437 lbs. each, proportions 1 : 4 : 10)
Center “Gnomen” stone: 0.5m x 1m x 5m (20,957 lbs., proportions 1 : 2 : 10)
Capstone: 0.5m x 2m x 3m (24,832 lbs., proportions 1 : 4 : 6)
As a sidebar, the SI (metric) system almost perfectly recreates Babylonian / Sumerian metrology in length, volume and mass. Although wikipedia is often unreliable, this quote appears to be essentially accurate:

Although not directly derived from it, there is a 1:2 proportional relationship between SI and Sumerian metrology. SI inherited the convention of the second as 1/86,400th of a solar day from Sumer thus, two Sumerian seconds are approximately one SI second. Moreover, because both systems use a seconds pendulum to create a unit of length, a meter is approximately two kuš3 [cubits], a liter 2 sila3, and a kilogram is 2 ma-na.

So the dimensions of each Guidestone are 1 cubit x 4 cubits x 10 cubits.

Regardless, the proportion of each Guidestone is then 1 : 4 : 10, which is possibly an encoding for January 4, 2010. Lending credibility to this hypothesis is the fact that the Burj Dubai will be officially completed on that date. The Burj Dubai is an almost otherworldly new building. By a very large margin, it is the tallest man-made structure ever built. At 828m (again, the number 18 appears: 8 + 2 + 8 = 18, also 828 = 46 * 18), the Burj Dubai will officially surpass what currently is the tallest building in the world, Taipei 101, by over 1,000 feet (2,717 feet compared to 1,671 feet) when it opens next Monday. The spiraling staircase, ziggurat-like design resembles a 21st Century Tower of Babel (Burj Babil).

Unfortunately, that might be the symbolic intent. The Burj Dubai might be intended to symbolize a new Tower of Babel and a completion of King Nimrod’s vision: a world where man can become like God. It might even symbolize that the builders believe an Antichrist has arrived.


The Burj Dubai now called the Burj Khalifa name after Sheikh Khalaifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan, the leader of Abu Dhabi

Note that the Luciferian elevation of man to godhood is not a gift bestowed upon everyone, but rather a chosen few. The rest of humanity is left to serve and worship their new gods. The totalitarian society outlined in Robert Christian’s book is a typical variation of this vision.

Disturbingly, one last piece of evidence supports the hypothesis above. Genesis 11:6 appears in a major, recent event: September 11th, 2001. In Luciferian sects, an upright pentagram represents constructive or good magic, while an inverted pentagram indicates destructive magic: cosmos versus chaos. 9/11 is an inversion of 11:6 indicating a destructive event. Of course, New York’s Twin Towers, at one time the two tallest buildings in the world, fell that day and many people died. It is chilling to think that a Luciferian cult would have the power to orchestrate these events, but there does appear to be a trail of occult evidence suggesting the possibility.

NOTE: Since the time this article was initially published, the Burj Dubai was opened in an elaborate, fiery ceremony and renamed the Burj Khalifa after Sheikh Khalaifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan, the leader of Abu Dhabi who bailed out Dubai after a financial crisis last month. It is worth mentioning at this point that the Georgia Guidestones’ capstone has the proportions 1 : 4 : 6 and the former emir of Dubai, Sheik Maktoum bin Rashad al Maktoum, died unexpectedly on a trip to Australia on January 4, 2006 (1 / 4 / 6). He was 62.

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Conclusion
Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin’ in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What’s down in the dark will be brought to the light
– Johnny Cash, “God’s Gonna Cut You Down”

The Georgia Guidestones monument in Elbert County, Georgia, has been the focus of controversy since its unveiling nearly thirty years ago. Our investigation into this structure suggests that much if not all of the criticism directed against it has been largely correct.

The undebatable originator of the monument, a man who used the pseudonym Robert C. Christian, authored the book Common Sense Renewed. In it he expounds upon his ten precepts etched into that stone edifice. Christian’s vision for the future is a totalitarian world order where the most sacred act of humanity, procreation, is completely controlled and regulated by the state for eugenics purposes, purposes that include selective breeding to modify human behavior like, as in dogs, increasing docility and loyalty. Children are the property of the state and the state decides where and how they are reared. God-given rights are replaced with state bestowed privileges granted temporarily for services rendered to the state. Suffrage is limited to the few whom the state considers worthy. Health care is rationed according to your value to the state, with only the elite receiving access to the most valuable life saving and extending medical services. If you lose your job, you become property of the state to be shipped anywhere labor is needed. Refusal means starvation, no access to health care and, doubtlessly, worse because Robert Christian wants most of us dead and the remaining survivors will be treated more like cattle than men, women and children in Christian’s new Rational World Order.

Accusations of sinister, occult and even Luciferican influences on the monument’s design also appear to be largely on target. Robert Christian’s vision expressed in his book is broadly consistent with modern Theosophical and Masonic theology. His book also includes many Masonic phrases. Moreover, the monument’s design clearly incorporates numerous Masonic themes, from its astronomical functions to the inclusion of virtually all archaic and extant languages important to Freemasonry, to apparently deliberate inclusion of numerological messages, to the neo-pagan design of the monument based upon England’s Stonehenge.

The odd, narrow proportions of the Guidestones, 1 : 4 : 10, appear to point to the date January 4th, 2010 which coincides with the completion of the Burj Dubai, a fantastically tall, new building erected in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. If the two structures are truly connected in this manner, it almost certainly symbolizes the completion of a new Tower of Babel and the beginning of a New World Order where man — or more accurately certain men — can now reach godhood. It may, in fact, indicate that the builders believe an Antichrist has arrived.

Our investigation into the identity of Robert C. Christian has uncovered highly persuasive yet circumstantial evidence linking Robert Edward “Ted” Turner to the very center of the Georgia Guidestones originators. This evidence is so strong that we believe Ted Turner probably was R.C. Christian. At the very least, Turner probably knows who R.C. Christian is.

Throughout our investigation, all of the people we met were good, honest, decent individuals. From Mart Clamp whose father, a master sandblaster, etched the 4” letters into the eight faces of the Georgia Guidestones, to the gracious Dr. Gloria Bader Merchant whose late husband contributed his significant writing skills for production of the monument’s guidebook, to Elberton Star publisher Gary Jones who, like most Elbertonians, keeps a protective eye on the Georgia Guidestones, to psychic Naunie Batchelder who was married underneath the Guidestones and who long ago predicted that the secrets of that strange edifice would be revealed within 30 years, to, of course, Wyatt C. Martin, a proud, gentlemanly, devout Christian who is the only person who knows Robert C. Christian’s real identity, all of these and more are wonderful, salt-of-the-earth people.

But in their midst is an abomination to humanity. The large, graven stone monument on top of the highest hill in Elbert County is a betrayal of a good, kind and loving people’s faith. It is a blight to their community and an insult to all mankind. Good people of Elbert County, Georgia, the world watches as you decide the fate of the Georgia Guidestones.

Video of the hay fall described at the beginning of the article

Copyright 2009, 2010 Van Smith

  132 Responses to “Decoding the Georgia Guidestones”

  1. Van – I believe your'e onto something. The healthcare rationing has already begun in the form of Obamacare. The Senate has voted to "expand" medicare so that free medical benefits are now all-inclusive (anyone who needs healthcare just has to step up). This is the drug-dealer tactic — "first one's free!" It is utilized to win the hearts and minds of those you will to enslave.
    After this bill is signed into law, the powers that be will amend it to include the public option that they wanted from the beginning. It will also include the abortion language they had to omit to get it passed. Once they have the ignorant masses under control and completely reliant upon them, they will then begin to trim the herd. The great culling will begin with the aborted births of those they deem "undesirable" and end with death panels for the elderly whom they deem useless or unworthy. Anyone who has the audacity to question them or fight back, will automatically be labeled an enemy of the state and will be dealt with swiftly and severely. Methods that our military and intelligence personnel had formerly employed to protect us in the war on terror (which the current administration has been deemed "inhumane") will be utilized in the name of national security in order to maintain their complete control.

    • The rationing under the Health Care act is non-existent. Look at the new Ryan Budget the Republicans are purporting and you will see real “rationing”. When you can;t afford to pay, you die. Corporations will gain all of your wealth before you go. Ergo, a decreased population over time.

  2. Maybe the first anonymous commentor on this article should worry about the Bush family's involvement in 9/11 before he starts finding an excuse to link Obama to any of this.

  3. Van, after reading your article I searched youtube to see if I could locate a picture of Mr. Turner around 1979 to see if he resembled the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I found this from 1980 ~

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQlspEiYVLs&feature;=related

    He sure had the silver hair; well dressed part of the description given. But, as far as being refined? well, I personally would say he is crude and gruff in his manner!!

  4. Thanks for writing this article. Its the best article on the subject I have found.

    Kind regards

  5. Thanks for the YouTube video of Ted Turner at the time of the Georgia Guidestones unveiling.

    Although he is often crude, Turner can also speak and debate well when he wants to do so.

  6. I know there continues to be problems posting comments to this Google blog. It seems to work if you use Internet Exploder, however. Ironically, Google Chrome doesn't work for me.

  7. Here is an active message board thread discussing this article:
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message955571/pg1

  8. Comments also work in Opera, but not in Firefox. So Opera and Internet Exploder work, Google Chrome and Firefox don't.

  9. To the 2nd anonymous person on this page ,
    If the bush family were the only ones behind this we would have nothing to worry about. The ones behind this are the same people that back obama and every other president exept for kennedy thats why he had to go. so with that dont let the fact that obama happens to be black he is here for your best intrest. Sounds to me your trying to stand up for obama because he looks like you but the truth is the nwo just got a make over to fool people like you. yes we can dosent meen what you think.so dont make it out to be about black vs white its really wolf vs sheep not a fair fight.

  10. Hello Van, I heard you on Dr. Monteith today and was impressed with your technology credentials. I have credentials, and interests, similar to yours, with degrees in physics and theological studies and eighteen years commercial experience in Information Technology systems. You can check out my curriculum vitae and website here: http://www.sillyconvalley.net/curriculumvitae.html

    Also, my business partner and I are currently developing a new freedom-oriented website that you will want to check out. Let's chat some time. Contact me at: http://www.sillyconvalley.net/contactus.html

    Perhaps we can collaborate on a project of joint interest. We share your concerns for the urgency of the hour.

  11. Um… Yeah.. Wolves vs. sheep not a fair fight. Especially when the wolves have better health care than me, a "sheep". I think this conversation is more about our fears of the unknown and what fate lies for us as a country more than anything. If you take into consideration the description of R.C. Christian, how many men of influence and money from that time period also fit that description?

    I don't understand how something as obviously good for everyone such as environmentalism can be twisted into a concept of one new world order. Why can't we look out for each other and then call on our governments to do the same?

    I'm not finalizing and saying that everyone on this thread is paranoid. There are some very important questions being asked and very important points being made. But, has anyone considered that maybe the powers that be are using these fear tactics to actually keep us down and dependent on a system that is already failing us? That maybe, by convincing us that by helping each other and calling on our governments to help each other is really establishing a "socialist" state (a return to cold war era philosophy) and that by treating the world as if it were a living thing that needs to be protected (omg, it is!) is an over exaggerated statement by population controlling zealots is a way to keep us oppressed? It is a way to keep us down, because at this point there is no other way to live. So we brush away these "new age" concepts for environmentalism and global health to wallow in our own dissatisfaction, meanwhile letting the system that is currently established prevail so as to bring our own undoing. Meanwhile, these motherfuckers sit back and watch with there hands washed of our deaths because we allowed them to make us do it to ourselves.

    I think we need to take stock in what is good for us as a whole unit. See as best as we can the intentions orf our leaders and then actively call out who needs to be called out and demand that they be made to account for their actions. Posts and anonymous little gripes on clandestin forums really don't cut it now adays. I'm not posting anonymously.

    Thanks for hearing me out,

    Pbeargrz

  12. Hi Van,

    Great article. Thank you so much!
    I am sure you are completely right.
    The cabal behind he Georgia Guidestones are Satanists, loving their rites and rituals, their kaballah and other numbers games — while doing a deadly number on us!

    Have you shared your research yet with Freeman? ( http://www.freemantv.com ).
    I bet he can corroborate your material and maybe even add to it.

    As a medical journalist I started a compilation of documented historical facts of Western patent mediSIN (work in progress, today 200+ pages). I could not help but come across the occult games by this same cabal.
    I will be spreading your work here in the Netherlands.
    Maybe you'd like to be a guest on my radio show ( http://www.argusoogradio.org, 'Gezond & Wel', hosting: Désirée )

    BTW, The more difficult your life becomes, the more right on the dot you know you are!

    • To the medical journalist with the radio show:
      To be so intelligent in your own right, I find it astounding to believe that you actually cling to a god at all. We enslave ourselves everyday to a being that could have very well been an artificial deity. EVERY religion does this. I simply find it hard to kneel to something that I, as a human-being, in time, can supersede. Believe in yourself, not others. It is their responsibility and right to believe in themselves.

  13. …its kind of funny how its seen as an evil cult to speak of uniting the world but the work of god and his "children" to destroy everything

    • Their own book tells them that in the final days “good shall be known as evil, and evil as good”. Scratch the surface of any of their chosen leaders and watch the vile hatred spew out as their evil becomes exposed. The delusion evidenced here is typical of the reactionary, fear based thinking they rely on to guide them. There is always a boogyman somewhere in the wings waiting to be attached to anything that might lead us toward a more sustainable lifestyle or more equitable treatment of each other.

  14. So 1/4/2010 or 1-4-10 has come and gone, did anything big happen on that date? The reason I ask is cus I don't remember anything happening, the earthquake in Haiti was close but are you sue that it is a date. What if it is a sequence of number that are significant, I don't know, say a formula for a virus or some wepon? I don't know if it is helpful or even what i'm talking about but check this out. When I seacher google for the date I came up with this. Tetrahedral (or pyramidal) numbers: C(n+2,3) = n(n+1)(n+2)/6.(Formerly M3382 N1363)the sequence of numbers fallows;
    1, 4, 10, 20, 35, 56, 84, 120, 165, 220, 286, 364, 455, 560, 680, 816, 969, 1140, 1330, 1540, 1771, 2024, 2300, 2600, 2925, 3276. is there a connection, exponential growth/death.

    dose any one think that there could be so sort of chaos theory connection?

    And has any one seen a picture of the top side of the capstone?

    And what about that new notch that was cut out of the top iner cornet of the English slab?

    any info on this would be nice. I'm just doing some reading and I find all of this very unsettling.

  15. 1/4/10 was the opening of the Burj Khalifa. A fundamental purpose of the Georgia Guidestones monument is to point to the completion of this tower. See the following post for a description of the numerology discovered in the Georgia Guidestones thus far:

    http://www.vanshardware.com/2010/01/more-linkage-between-georgia.html

    More information is disclosed in the Radio Liberty broadcasts.

    Note that the Gnomen / gnomon stone remains undeciphered other than its contribution to the overall height calculation of the Burj Khalifa.

  16. If you are curious as to the location of the Corner-Stone that was cut almost 30 years ago, not in recent months…….the Corner-Stone is fine. All is well, and will be revealed in the correct Light.

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1199409676317

  17. Van,
    We enjoyed meeting you at the stones on 3/20/10, our time of fellowship and your insight was awesome! Thank you for all you do….I pray God’s blessings and protection upon you and your loved ones.
    The Griffin’s

  18. here is more info on depopulation agenda

    http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=4632.0

    will write your email with other thoughts.

    good work and interesting connections.

    you’ve left linguistics and other current major players out but did narrow to plausible field of 3. I would be interested to know the sandblaster’s story regarding the apparent typos in a number of languages for one would assume a template was used.

    322, to me, links to the Ram or the Age of Aries and the people most associated with falling down to worship the Golden Calf!

    That is where I believe the roots of the source for this monument lies but do not yet have enough data to really prove anything. I think Turner is a very interesting analysis and choice I am just not sure, there seems to be some gaps and missing knowledge. What that is I dont know but am a lookin and glad to see work like yours Van!

    keep up the good work!

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  20. if you call that number on the billboard will you get a devil’s haircut?

  21. Anonymous has left a new comment on your post “Decoding the Georgia Guidestones”:

    The books are the words of Ted Turner . I doubt that anyone will ever say ” yes, I did it” I am certain that the conclusion on this site were right as far as turner, and particulary, the person who said ” if it wasn’t Ted Turner who went to have this done”, nailed it. I will give you a name .

    Terrance McGurik a very articulate, always imaculantly dressed person. here is a little about him, and his connection to turner .

    This evidence is so strong that we believe Ted Turner probably was R.C. Christian. At the very least, Turner probably knows who R.C. Christian is.”

    The description of the physical R.C Christian , is McGurik exactly. This is also how they operated. Remember when I said, Turner had an idea , and it was McGurik who made it happen. That was his job . Turner thought up TBS Channel 17 , which was a local Atlanta Station, and had the idea to beam it all over the Country via Satellite . It was McGuirk who made it happen. CNN being a “global news organization that would change the world”. It was McGuirk who was charged with making it happen. It is how they worked. No variation from that in all their years together. When Turner was removed as Vice Chairman of Time Warner, it was McGuirk that took over, later becoming CEO . Turner is still the largest shareholder of Time Warner, which now includes George Soro’s owning the second largest stake.

    So Turner wrote the books ( exactly how he thinks and talks ) , and McGuirk was the guy who went to have the plans implemented … Ga stones. Everyone would have known who Turner was, by Physical appearance .Turner is always somewhat “Sloppy” or disheveled in appearance. McGuirk , even in a hot Ga summer, would have been immaculate in appearance . Otherwise, they are pretty close as to appearance

    Someone wrote this in the comment section of that site regarding turner . “He sure had the silver hair; well dressed part of the description given. But, as far as being refined? well, I personally would say he is crude and gruff in his manner!! ” Good point and Spot on. The refined one in both speech and appearance is McGurik .

    will someone ever come out and say Terrance McGurik? Probably not, as he has a cushy job, running the Atlanta Braves , and on the Board of several corporations . He is loyal to a T . He is also a devote catholic, but he would have made this happen , the stones, and would have easily played the in person role as R.C Christian . Turner wrote the books . The level of loyalty he had for Tuner , is one of those rare partnerships . Even if he didn’t agree, it was his job , and he took it seriously . remember, Turner is badly bi-polar, was suicidal often, took many meds, and drank on top of them . He was not an easy man to be around . I saw him almost punch Jane Fonda at a Charity event, because she had not retrieved a drink for him yet. The only relevance of that is to show how strong the relationship was between Turner and McGurik . Turner would have been a man of many big ideas, that never happened had it not been for McGurik

    Turner would not have had checks sent from all over the country as the Banker said. He wouldn’t know how. McGuirk did all that for him. Turner was no good at all in implementing anything. He is a total idea person. McGurik is the yang to Turners ying . Turner could and would, often did, call at late hours with an idea . McGurik never complained , nor would he . He would never talk either . As loyal as one could find.

    I have a photo of him somewhere or you can find one on the net . One look at him you will see what I mean.

    No doubt that it was Ted Turner and Terrance McGurik

  22. Thank you for the very interesting comment.

    Van

  23. Anonymous has left a new comment on your post “Decoding the Georgia Guidestones”:

    Unattributed, incompletely cited, only partially correct:

    A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.

    Actually, it’s this somewhat rambling sentence fragment from p 113 of “Ted Turner Turns It On”, by Bruce Stutz, Audubon, Nov/Dec91 (not 1996!), Vol. 93 Issue 6 (the only interview with Ted Turner that Audubon has published):

    If we had a much smaller population, and over time we had only one child, and over maybe 300 or 400 years we could cut back to 250 million – 350 million people. We could replan our cites …

    I had to drag out an interlibrary-loaned paper copy to check this one, and am sure your readers will appreciate your setting the record straight.

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    • The Ted Turner quote in my article is widely cited and attributed to various sources. Here’s one:

      http://www.aim.org/wls/five-percent-of-the-present-population-would-be-ideal/

      “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95 percent decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

      Ted Turner
      CEO of Turner Broadcasting Network and CNN, vice president of Time-Warner, owner of the Atlanta Braves, advisor to Mikhail Gorbachev’s Green Cross International, donor of $1,000,000,000 to the UN.

      Source: You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, 1999, page 189.
      Hardcopy: Copy of page 189 from Gielow’s book.
      Where: During an interview with Audubon magazine.
      Contributor: AIM.
      Category: Population

      ========

      Turner, a very powerful but arguably insane man, has since amended his population target upwards to 2 billion after he consulted “experts” who told him that to maintain our current levels of technology and infrastructure, 2 billion people would be required globally.

      There was an interesting exchange with Turner about this topic that can be viewed here:

      http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/28turner_911.html

  24. Greetings.

    I searched the net for world news in 2010.01.04. I found this site:
    http://www.maplandia.com/news/2010/january/4/

    With these news:
    Dubai to open world’s tallest tower (Monday 4th of January 2010, 13:43)

    ‘Vast’ tomb found south of Cairo (Monday 4th of January 2010, 18:38)
    Archaeologists in Egypt say they have found the largest known tomb in the ancient necropolis of Sakkara, to the south of Cairo.

    Also there was a song by the Lostprophets – It’s Not The End Of The World (from an album called The Betrayed) released in this date. If you watch the 3.24 min long video (which I could 2 days ago but today wasn’t available ?!) at exactly 2.00 min there’s a very clear image of 3107 (July 31st?). Call me crazy but it stand out, a very clear and steady image in a very chaotic and frantic video. Try this link:
    http://www.nme.com/musicvideos/id/488850

  25. i don’t think it’s ted turner…..

  26. So Ted Turner’s actual quote taken in context suggests that through limiting the numbers of children born the population could be decreased. That is not the same as genocide. Genocide has a specific definition and it involves intent to destroy a certain group of people. Last time I checked China’s one-child policy was not causing the extermination of the Chinese people nor is that its intent. Offensive, immoral, however one feels about it, it doesn’t equate to genocide, which is a loaded term and apparently not applicable to what Ted Turner actually said in the original article from which all the other quotes derive. Leaping to the most extreme and emotionally explosive interpretation of things without considering other plausible explanations introduces a taint of hysteria and extremism which is what turns most people off about theories like this.

    • They recognize the errors of their ways because of the inordinate amount of males chosen, rather than female. They have altered their consciousness. Theories are theories and are not truth.

  27. What I cannot seem to understand is why… The vandals only support the ideals the Guidestones support. If you really want something to go away, you forget about it. You leave it be. Stop fueling the media fire with consistent, and useless now, acts of vandalism. We’ve gone above and beyond destructive. We are an arrogant species with only power and greed as our drive. Fear is what drives simple minds to simplistic actions. If “Christian” had the dedication and obvious drive to get his and his “companions” belief across, then so be it. Who am I, or you, or anyone else to pass judgment?
    So we leave it in the hands of God. This is also a touchy subject. The idea of a unified government and language system scares the hell out of most Christians. Why? I wonder. Wouldn’t it be in God’s best interest to unify man? What would be the purpose of having a millions, BILLIONS, of people, his children, (for we are all God’s children, right?), warring and murdering in his name. It does not really matter to what name you give the great being in the sky, the base ideal is the same: ” My word is correct, anyone who does not follow, is against, is evil, is wrong.” If you have a hundred thousand faiths, which one is correct? How about the solid solution…? We are here, we need this rock to live… it doesn’t need us. But, if we destroy it… we will all die, all will die… and then the earth will rebuild herself. Like a bad headache we come, then we go… and the earth will continue on. Regardless of whatever mystery man or men decided to build this interesting stone structure, it’s a pretty solid statement with some pretty sound advice. Hoax, truth… the only truth that really should be considered is that if we do continue in the direction we’re going, our children, or our children’s children, will look on those guidestones, possibly, and learn in that that someone was right… and right now it is not us. I’m not worried about bitter intricacies in this. This isn’t supposed to be some cryptologists heaven. There is no hidden agenda in this Guidestone… It is exactly what it is. A really good damned idea. Look where our best ideas have gotten us so far. Fear is the strongest tool ignorance wields. Either we need to accept what we do not understand, and try to understand it. Or we will stay alone, scared and ignorant til the day we end ourselves.
    ( i would like to add that guide two is one i do not fully support. guiding humanity in a direction using selective breeding is not against the laws of nature, but is a threshold very difficult to accept by the conscious and able mind. We are aware of what we are, what we do, what we can do… what we could be. It makes it hard, then, to decide not to breed because it’s in our nature to pass on our seed. We WANT to… at least. We certainly do not have to. )
    We are like a virus, and soon… we will mutate until we eradicate every living thing, including ourselves.

    • Yes, the 10 ideas expressed on the Guidestones sound great, and may actually be great, depending upon HOW these things are brought about. If it is thru force, by some governing body, then it is nothing short of a drastic violation of our God-given FREE-WILL! Humans are endowed by the Creator with free-will for a reason: that we may CHOOSE FOR OURSELVES between good & evil, constructive or destructive, selfishness or altruism, etc. No human being(s) have the right to force anyone to choose anything against their will! Ultimately, at the end of our lifespan, we will be judged according to our choices, by our Creator, & dealt with accordingly. It IS NOT for ANY HUMAN to usurp the rights of God!!!

      If each person, as an individual with free-will, were to look upon these “guides” as the way they wish to conduct THEMSELVES, thereby leading by EXAMPLE only, it WOULD be a good thing. But if, as the opponents of “the New World Order” fear, this is brought about by the subjugation of humanity’s free-will to act according to each individual’s conscience, by some form of governing body, the results would be nothing short of EVIL – PURE EVIL!

      • The creators of the Georgia Guidestones are, collectively, from the intertwined theosophic groups. Rosicrucians, Freemasons and Alice Bailey devotees all had a hand in the monument.

        R.C. Christian, likely a Rosicrucian, apparently had access to privileged information. The numerological information encoded in the Georgia Guidestones unambiguously points to the Burj Khalifa, the tallest building in the world. The Burj was completed just this year and has the symbolic meaning of a modern Tower of Babel, signifying man’s conquest over God.

        The innermost circles of theosophy are not benevolent, but despise the common man.

        Their ultimate goal is to destroy national sovereignty, usurp Christianity and erect a global totalitarian government composed of regional fiefdoms. The common man will become their beasts of burden and those commoners allowed to exist will serve and worship them as gods. Or at least that is what they have been working towards for many, many years.

        They are insane, but they believe their goals are achievable and they are bound together in their Hermetic cult by their shared and twisted ambitions as much as by their demented religious beliefs. Composed of royalty, aristocracy, bankers, old money and new and aided by their deluded foot soldiers in politics, media, churches, businesses, military, intelligence agencies and the police, they are powerful and merciless.

        The were the hidden hand behind Nazism and Communism. They are Machiavellian and their subversive methods are known:

        http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1297179/pg1

        They are not reactive. They are proactive and it appears that they have very unpleasant plans for the world over the next few years. Their ultimate goals were spelled out euphemistically in Robert C. Christian’s Common Sense Renewed.

    • Luke 12:49-53 Matthew 25:32. As Van Smith reply to Fan of V…I can’t help but wonder how long will LORD Jesus Christ come and stop their evil plans after The AntiChrist appears. The creators of the Georgia Guidestones may comprise other secret societies hates (Torah and Bible) Jesus the Nazareth which divide nations preventing them from achieving unity tracing back to The Tower of Babel.

  28. […] as to the identity of those who commissioned for the Guidestones, including an argument that Ted Turner is responsible. However, at this point it is anybody’s guess. As long as the origin of the monument remains […]

  29. This article describes Terry Mcguirk as a 28 yr old redhead in 1980…

    http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/1980/05/01/a/

  30. World will be much safer from various dumb and dangerous projects if we cap lifetime earnings of a corporation to about 150 million and lifetime income of an individual to about 20 million (in 2010 US dollars).

    P.S. Why don’t you DATE your article? Today is 22 Dec. 2010. Nothing has happened.

  31. The hay could have been brought either by a tornado or by a geo-engineering airplane to deflect sun’s rays to “fight” global warming. So the hay could have come from so-called “chemtrails”.

  32. Hi van,

    Thanks for this great article. It’s without a doubt the best resource on the Georgia guidestones I’ve seen.

    I’m a reporter for Georgia public broadcasting and am working in a film about the guidestones. I was hoping you would let me interview you for the project. You can reach me at thecubists@gmail.com .

    I hope to hear from you soon!

    Best,

    Noel

  33. To all those non believers wakey wakey…!

  34. What are you afraid of ?

  35. I’m not by any means a conspiracy theorist and before I saw tonights episode of “Decoded”, I didn’t even know they existed. I kind of agree with Brad Meltzer and his interpretation of these stones. I don’t think they were meant for the world we live in today. I don’t think they are commandments of a new world order. I don’t think they are evil or even necessarily religious in their meaning. I think they are meant to be a common sense guideline of how to move forward after major world changing catastrophes that are being predicted to reduce the population of the world to a small fraction of what it is today. If you look at the writings from the standpoint of a struggling postapocalyptic world, they make a great deal of sense. If massive chunks of the worlds land masses are inundated, then it might make good sense to limit the worlds population to a sustainable level to keep a balance between mankinds needs and nature’s ability to sustain us. One new world language also makes sense to a world struggling to survive. Much of the misunderstandings among different peoples today is caused by not understanding the different languages we use to communicate. Guiding reproduction wisely would also make sense under these conditions. Look at places like Ethiopia where they are starving to death because they can’t produce enough food to survive, yet they continue to have children that probably won’t live past childhood. Rule passion, faith, tradition and all things with tempered reason? The greatest attrocities going on in the world and even down through history are due to out of control religious fanaticism. Maybe a little tempered reason is exactly what the world needs. Who cares which religion is the right one! Just practice your own without judging everyone elses and the world will be a better place! Fair laws and just courts? Hell Yeah! That’s exactly what the world needs! Stop making laws to oppress the lawful and start going after the lawless. Stop punishing the law abiding gun owners because criminals are using guns to commit crimes! Stop opening our arms to illegal aliens and start treating them like the criminals they are. Nations ruling internally and resolving conflicts in a world court would probably put an end to a lot of the military conflicts in the world. Avoid petty laws and useless officials? Now there’s a plan I wish they would follow now. Maybe a lot less useless laws and unnecessary officials and our economy wouldn’t be so far in the toilet now. Balance personal rights with social duties? When personal rights override social duties, what’s left is anarchy. Society can’t survive if it’s citizens don’t contribute to the society. Prize truth, beauty, love – seeking harmony with the infinite? Isn’t that the original teachings and basis of all religion? That is, before they were all corrupted by power hungry fanatics over the centuries. Be not a cancer on the Earth – leave room for nature? Well, hopefully it’s not too late for that one. We are rapidly depleting the worlds nonrenewable natural resources, and nature is getting more scarce by the day. Sounds like words to live by to me. Or maybe to survive by? Who knows who was behind these stones? Who cares? If you stop coming up with conspiracies and just listen to the wisdom of the words, maybe this world will survive the next Earth shattering catastrophe without devolving into bloodthirsty pack animals killing each other for every scrap of food or drop of gasoline. All these prophecies say the world is going to end as we know it in December of 2012. I don’t personally believe it, but if it does then these guidestones might be the Rosetta Stone to allow civilization to survive and become the utopian society where everyone understands and supports each other instead of coming up with pointless reasons to kill each other like we do today. You don’t have to agree with me. You don’t need to vilify me if you don’t agree with me either. It’s just one man’s opinion and it’s no more or less valuable than anybody else’s. I have no plans to come back to see what kind of responses this comment receives, so any vitriolic diatribes will fall on deaf ears. Best of luck to us all, and may we all have a Happy New Year in 2013.

    • but what makes me wonder the most is why the secrecy? if it were so simple that it was just good guidelines for living then who would care who put it up there? and why would you care if people knew who did it or what organization they were with. even if I did something for the sake of God or whatever reason and only did it for the sake of doing it and not for putting my name out there I still wouldn’t try to hide the fact that I did it either. if asked then maybe and no I wouldn’t go on interviews and what not I would just simply say yeah I did it for such and such reasons and leave it at that, not put on a fake identity then vanish. I think sometimes people see things that are too far fetched so they look passed it and look at the people that focus on it as insane or misled. no I know nothing for sure and I don’t claim this is real or fake much like alot of the mason/illuminati stuff I see. but I do believe something is happening right under our noses and I think people sometimes are so smart that it makes them stupid. example… have you heard of the group of people that go into a store a few of them lure the clerk away from the cash register while another jacks the safe and they have a spotter watching incase the clerk comes back, then they take off with the money and everybody gets a cut. it’s so easy and obvious you wouldn’t even think it would happen but then BAM it did happen and even though it’s so obvious that it could happen it gets overlooked. not the best explanation I know but it’s just what people do. and yes people dig in too deep to alot of things and come out looking stupid I’ve seen alot of it. like thinking everybody that throws up a sign is in the illuminati in the music industry, for all we know they may just be singing songs somebody else wrote and going along with music videos somebody else made up and not paying attention to what they put in it. but thats another story. all I’m saying is the secrecy about is is kind of wierd and with fema creating camps “prisons” and fema is basically above the law as it is. alot of wierd stuff is going on lately and anybody who was a part of the government or illuminati that has brought out legit info usually dies dissapears or goes underground. alot of the things I’ve been looking up usually has some kind of follow up on the person about the date of their death or when they came up missing. something is going on. we may not see it in our time but our children most likely will.

  36. Very interested in my recent discovery of these stones. I’m also interested in where you saw “Robert” as the first name of R.C. the financer of the stones. SECONDLY, If no one seems to know who did this, why don’t they say who owns the property on which the stones stand?
    Third, The sign at the camera must reflect the mentality of either the local Sheriff, or the sign painter. (Spelled “Sherriff”)
    Now, I am anxious for 12/21/12 to arrive and see what happens, if anything other than Christmas shopping.
    Thank you.

  37. Did you ever consider Armand Hammer to be R.C. Cristian? he was in Moultrie, Georgia in 1980. the same year the stone abomination was unveiled. He brought his art collection to this small, hole-in-the-wall town, and nearly 50,000 people came to see it. Why would a man of his stature and wealth do this? It’s not to far from where the stones were built.
    This is the title for the you tube video if you want to check it out.
    Armand Hammer Exhibit in Moultrie, Georgia (1/2)

  38. Thank you for doing your research writing this matter-of-fact article on the subject. Before now, I was unable to take any NWO related articles seriously. I only wish that I could know your evidence for Ted Turner as Robert C. Christian because as a skeptic I am doubtful. This definitely does seem like an honest study you have done but it is a shame that you cannot reveal the evidence to others for them to skeptically analyze it and come to the same conclusion.

  39. I just think its funny that while Ted Turner was producing WCW wrestling his biggest money maker was a group of wrestlers calling themselves the New World Order or NWO…

  40. These “guidestones” advocate the mass murder of at least 6 billion people to keep the population at 500 million. They should be blown off the face of the earth.

    • If the stones are meant for a remnant of humanity surviving a cataclysm they would be considered advice for how to proceed forward without the pitfalls we have already experienced. If one were advocating for action by a ruling body in our current societal structure paper would be a more appropriate medium. These stones were obviously meant to endure into a more distant future, or past a destructive event, in which case the population may already have been decimated to below the prescribed maximum level.

      The choice of granite from this region may be of particular interest to one attempting to fix a timeline to anticipated events. While certainly durable, it is not completely impervious to erosion. One only has to look at gravestones quarried from the same source over the last century to estimate the useful life of the message written here. Obviously, the stones were meant to become relevant withing 50-100 years. If someone with the resources to have built this monument had wished to communicate with others beyond that there are certainly more durable mediums available to do so, and at similar or less cost.

  41. Thank You Van for this information, it’s very informative and will be used in the future!

  42. Van, this is a well-written article, but I struggle with assuming that the RC Christian who commissioned the Guidestones is the same person who published Common Sense Renewed. Do you have any proof linking the two? Just because someone published something in a known pseudonym doesn’t mean that they are the same person who originally used that same pseudonym.

    • In addition to being delivered to every member of Congress, Common Sense Renewed was distributed by the Elberton Granite Association. Joe Fendley, who met R.C. Christian and whose company built the Guidestones, was directly involved with book distribution (in fact, all remaining copies are now obtained through his son) and the book shares text with the official Georgia Guidestones guidebook that was produced a few months after the monument was completed.

      The author also explicitly claims to have been solely responsible for financing and designing the Georgia Guidestones, so that leaves little ambiguity, especially taken in light of the book’s endorsements from the Elberton Granite Association and Joe Fendley Sr.

      Nevertheless, there are some people who dispute that the book’s author was R.C. Christian, mainly because it shatters the benevolent environmentalist message that they want to read into the Georgia Guidestones.

      What is important to understand is that “R.C. Christian” might have been only one or two men, but they were acting on the behalf of a larger, vastly powerful group that appears to have included Ted Turner, the Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Alice Bailey disciples, U.N. insiders and perhaps others. They clearly had access to the inside knowledge that led to the Burj Khalifa. The monument itself might have been intended to gain favor and status within this group.

      Of course, there are a few people who maintain that R.C. Christian was actually the immortal Christian Rosenkreuz, the alleged founder of the Rosicrucians who they claim has appeared throughout history in different guises like the Count of St. Germain.

  43. There are some indisputable facts coming to light here, though, folks. The world is in fact way over populated, but it doesn’t take a master race to determine how the herd is thinned, as Nature would very likely start with those who are the ilk of Pike, et al. They plan the wars, though, and it serves two purposes: to gain control of energy resources and to kill young people. These are the leaders of our country, regardless of party affiliation, indeed of the world, and we’re the morons who put them in that position.

    As for Lucifer…this is a name that was vilified by the early Catholic church simply because the Church was doing everything in its power to wipe out the truth. It was Catholicism that turned Lucifer into the devil and decided to make “him” synonymous with Satan, who was a completely different character and was ALSO vilified by the Catholic Church because, whether you’re aware of it or not, Catholicism invented the devil, and hell, and so on. I don’t actually care, or believe, one way or another, as I trust Nature will do what is necessary and choose for herself, from herself, but Catholicism has as much power as any faction in the world management team, making Christianity one of the world’s darkest blights and therefore one of the biggest candidates of all to be rid of.

    For the world to survive, religion must go, and it will, God willing.

  44. Ted Turner really is most likely and the most prabability than the others, for the simple reason the story is really remarkable in it`s compelling evidence and forthright explanation. Simply great. Turner was saying exactly as you say and I remember calling him a demon in human body for his ridiculous comments. Only thing now is, it`s almost reality. We must gather together and destroy this monster that wants to eat us and spit us out like piece of used bubblegum. As far out as Turner is, he gets results.!, afterall didn`t you mention that He just gave one billion dollars to the U.N. to maybe devise what is called “Austerity” measures in Greece? We are only days away from seeing Our Congress default our Constitution and tell it`s people to their faces, you are no longer free. Get the air bags, carbon air tax is upon us, and the unfilled prairie pot hole will become U.S. Government property when it fills up with water. Will The Supreme Court of Our Country, upon looking through the HealthCare reform bill, do the right thing by the American people in cover our backs with the Constitution, and put an end to this present regimes stranglehold on common sense and decency. I question the character and integrity of our leadership. The head is sick and the body is reeling. Americans everywhere wake up!!!!. Death to the N.W.O. .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Considering America’s position in the world, and the fact that we spend more than the next eight nations combined on our military, I don’t understand why everyone assumes that a NWO would subjugate our country. If you talk to people of other countries about this NWO it becomes plain that they are looking over their shoulders at us with suspicion. I can say with almost absolute certainty that any NWO established in any foreseeable future will be remarkably similar to present day America, and will likely be forwarded by the very same people who are most riled up over the issue now.

  45. First, the original measurements were in metric, which is European standard. Did you ever consider that the U.S. is the ONLY country in the world to read number dates as MM/DD/YY? Everywhere else, they read them as DD/MM/YY… which may mean that the date in question wasn’t January 4, 2010, but rather April 1, 2010—APRIL FOOL’S DAY, ahem.

    Second, people keep going with the assumption that the 500,000,000 population refers to a deliberate advocating of wiping out most of the Earth’s population, but there is another possible interpretation: if the guidestones were built as a post-apocalyptic guide, then perhaps the assumption was that the world will suffer catastrophes which wipe out most of the population, and the guidestones’ tenet is advice to a tiny population not to grow larger than that number, and to use birth control and other means to avoid explosive population growths that would cause us to once again exceed that number.

    Thank you for passing on the info about that book, I’ll have to locate a copy and read it for myself. If you are indeed correct with your interpretations that it advocates the state exerting such stringent control over jobs, families, healthcare distribution etc. only to those it deems the most worthy, then I am indeed against such measures. However, I’ve learned to go read things for myself, because often I find that people leave out information or see only their own interpretation of what was written. Often, most of those who are violently against a book (whether it’s Tom Sawyer or Harry Potter or The Grapes of Wrath, or anything else) have never read it themselves—instead, they’ve taken some inflammatory statement about it made by someone else, and simply accepted it as true/factual. Thanks, but I’ll read it and decide for myself.

  46. I was wondering with the massive earthquake that we had not too long ago there was talk about it throwing the earth off it’s axis by however much, they say not enough to matter but it did throw it off. I wonder if the talk about how the whole in the stones was slightly off when viewing the north star if because of this shift in the axis if it is now aligned? just a thought…

  47. Good article very interesting. Some people fall to far deep into this stuff and it consumes them and they miss out on everything going on around them. Hopefully Van, you do not get consumed and continue your ventures in computers and continue to live a normal life. There are things we will never learn the answers to gaining knowledge is powerful but letting these things consume you is deadly. Good luck and continue writing!

    DH

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  49. There needs to be translation done of the Ancient texts that adorn the capstone, this may shed further light on things.

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